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Old 01-25-2019, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ShundayBloodyShunday View Post
But that only beggars the question.

Is it possible that actuarial is not considered "elite" in the US because the elite schools don't have (solid) actuarial science programs?
no. When I went to college, there were only a handful of "actuarial science" programs, and they weren't terribly well regarded by the industry. It was generally known that you could get smarter candidates from schools that didn't have those programs, like the leading state schools, as well as the ivies, etc.

Since then there has been an explosion of actuarial science programs and they now exist at a wide variety of schools, but the elite schools don't do "trade school", and don't have programs for any actual jobs. It's true that there are enough pre-med students, and pre-law students, that everyone knows how to use the existing majors to do a solid premed, etc., program. But really, the elite schools are designed to prepare you to go to graduate school.

And anyway, what do you think of as an "elite" field?

Originally Posted by The_Polymath View Post
Maybe when it comes to MBAs.

But for graduate degrees (MSc) that is very rare.

Until trump made it hard to get here, MSc for foreign students was the cash cow of pretty much every institute of higher education in the US. The new difficulties in getting visas may permanently kill many of our mid-tier private universities, because if the Chinese all go to school in China for a few years, those programs will improve and the college kids in China will no longer know a bunch of grad students in the US, and will likely follow the path of least resistance and keep going to Chinese schools. Harvard and Standford will survive, but the XYZ Polytechs may all die in a decade or so.
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