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Old 07-23-2003, 09:56 PM
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Default four quick resume questions.

1. ? 2. ? 3 ? 4?

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Old 07-23-2003, 10:06 PM
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1. I'd call to make sure that person is still the official contact person with that company. That list is not continuously updated. If not, get the name of the person who is.

2. I'm not sure if cold-contact-e-mailing is appropriate just yet. Perhaps instead of calling the contact as I suggested above, e-mail them to confirm their official contactness, then ask if it's ok to send a resume and cover letter via e-mail.

3. List the degrees. Perhaps at the bottom, note the ten different schools you've attended, and maybe a real good reason why this occurred.

4. Transcripts will have to be of the sealed-envelope-from-school kind. If you have extra envelopes stored, those will be acceptable.

5. And lastly, if you have any exams passed, place them above all other information. That's what we're looking for, and that's how most of us will order the pile.
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I agree with DTNF on all except point 4. For a "Here I am" a list of relevant courses with grades is fine, in my experience. Once you are into the interview process, companies may want an official transcript for vetting purposes, but I would not send even a complete, inofficial transcript with a cold letter--too much clutter. You want them to see all the reasons they should talk to you further within 30 seconds.
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Default Re: four quick resume questions.

(1) If you feel comfortable making a cold call, definitely do it. A good call will be a good introduction. But if you really stumble through the call, that will be a real killer.
(2) I'm a big fan of getting resumes by email - shows me you can use a computer, even if only the most basic stuff. The body of the email should serve as the cover letter.
(3) Your call - I'd only list the one you graduated from. When I first started, I would have said list them all.
(4) Send transcripts only when they ask. This will only be used to verify the information you provided in your resume/interview.
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Old 07-23-2003, 11:35 PM
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I prefer to receive resumes via email. However, often when I send a resume out via email I don't get a response (positve or negative). On the other hand, I've always gotten a response when mailing out the same information on good old fashioned paper.
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Old 07-24-2003, 12:25 AM
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Don't send a resume by email unless you call first and ask if it's ok. One of the top people at my office does a lot of hiring, and he does not know how to open an attachment. Brilliant, but not computer literate. Sad, I know.

Other people will think it's too informal.
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(1) Contacting someone by phone, briefly, with the statement of "My resume will be forthcoming" is appropriate.

(2) E-mail is gauche. Spend the 37 cents postage.

(3) Show a complete education unless you took "music appreciation" only at some community college to get 3 general education credits.

(4) Transcripts should not be sent until requested.
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In a relatively recent conversation with a hiring actuary, I asked. Calling first is almost always helpful so you stick out as "the dude I talked to in May about such-and-such". Then you'll know if it's OK. He said sure, and I wrote my cover letter in the body of the email.
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I think mailed looks better, is a little more formal (in a good way), BUT.....

if you email it to me, and I know somebody else in another group, or if I just want to run it around my group for them to tell me what they think, email makes my life easier, just press a button to forward multiple copies.

So, I still think you have two options: 1) ask which they prefer, and then do that, or 2) snail mail.
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